MurthyBulletin
VOL. XV, no. 01; Jan 2009, week 1
Posted : Jan 02, 2009
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The MurthyBulletin is the eNewsletter on immigration from the Murthy Law Firm. The information provided is of a general nature and may not apply to any particular set of facts or circumstances. It should not be construed as legal advice and does not constitute an engagement of the Murthy Law Firm. Full Disclaimer available.
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TOPICS in this Edition of the MurthyBulletin :
1. We Thank You - the Murthy Community
2. Immigration Planning for 2009 and Beyond
3. Electronic DS-160 Required at U.S. Consulate in Ciudad, Juarez
4. Secretary of DOL Hilda Solis's Position on Immigration
5. President Obama and U.S. Immigration Policy
6. Reminder : Murthy's Corporate Teleconference - Wed, Jan 07, 2009
7. MurthyDotCom : Did You Know about our Consulate Page?
8. Important Processing Times and Dates
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Engaging the Murthy Law Firm : Our office can conveniently and efficiently represent clients located anywhere in the United States or abroad on U.S. immigration matters.
Consultations with attorneys at the Murthy Law Firm : You may contact our office to schedule a one-time paid consultation with no further obligation. A scheduled consultation with an attorney at the Murthy Law Firm provides you with details and recommendations based on the specific facts of your case. This will help you with making the right decisions based on the legal options and strategies available.
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1. We Thank You - the Murthy Community
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The Murthy Law Firm in 2008 : A Year in Review was our year-end article in the last edition of the MurthyBulletin for 2008. It looked back on our successes and challenges last year. We would like to take this opportunity to extend our most sincere gratitude to everyone in the Murthy community - to our clients, MurthyDotCom visitors, and MurthyBulletin subscribers, as well as all who make use of our services or share our name with those who might find them beneficial. Your invaluable loyalty and support over the years has helped us help others, and we want to continue to be worthy of that trust and respect in 2009. Although the state of the economy has many worried about what the New Year will bring, we at the Murthy Law Firm trust that, with your continued patronage, we will be able to help many other individuals, families, friends, and businesses achieve their dreams of living and working in the United States.
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For the Murthy Law Firm, 2009 holds great promise as we look forward to advance and enrich the experience of all in the Murthy community. Our commitment to our clients is to provide you with the best representation in U.S. immigration law matters, while also being sensitive to the cost to you. Because of our continuous improvements to technology, we are able to streamline internal procedures, thereby reducing expenses and enhancing services. These savings are passed on to our clients, many of whom are favorably surprised by our competitive rates. We have plans for improvements to our website, which is a mainstay for many who rely on our news and analysis as it impacts immigrants and their employers. We are grateful for your patronage and loyalty over the years. We always look for ways to serve you better. We are a nation of immigrants, and by working together, we make a difference!
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2. Immigration Planning for 2009 and Beyond
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We at the Murthy Law Firm wish each of you a wonderful year ahead for 2009. We would like to take this opportunity to help you, our readers, with plans to care for your immigration status and that of your family members. At least once a year, it is wise to conduct a review of your immigration deadlines and expiration dates, and the start of each new calendar year is a good time to reexamine everything. This article highlights many common problems we encounter when guiding our clients in their immigration cases. Included is an explanation of the I-94 card expiration date, the visa stamp in the passport, and common mistakes regarding H-4 extensions. We offer some ideas to help MurthyDotCom and MurthyBulletin readers avoid or overcome some difficult situations.
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Check the Expiration of I-94 Card
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If a person is present in the U.S. in a temporary, nonimmigrant status, then s/he should check the expiration date on the I-94 arrival / departure card. The I-94 is a small card that should be affixed to the passport. It is obtained in one of two ways. It can be issued by the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) at the port of entry (POE) upon one's admission to the United States, or it may be issued by the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) based upon a request to change or extend status in the U.S. In the latter case, it initially is found at the bottom of the approval notice (Form I-797) only when the USCIS approves the extension or change of status. This card reflects the length of time one may legally remain in the U.S. Of course, it is necessary to comply with the terms of the particular status. On occasion, the USCIS will issue an I-94 for an incorrect timeframe; usually beyond the period permitted for the particular category and individual. If one finds such an error has been made, s/he should not to rely on these dates. It is best to seek proper legal advice. An attorney at the Murthy Law Firm can be consulted on this matter. Information is available on our Consultation Page on MurthyDotCom.
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People sometimes get confused between the visa "stamp" expiration date and the I-94 expiration date. The visa stamp is an entry document, only. It is issued by a U.S. consulate abroad. A valid visa does not grant status in the United States. It grants permission to request entry into the U.S. For example, one may have a 10-year, multiple entry B-2 visa. The period of time one may remain in the United States, however, is not determined by the visa. It is determined by the I-94 received at the port of entry (or any extension of the I-94 later granted by the USCIS). For most B-2 visa applicants, the timeframe usually is a maximum of six months, though shorter durations, like one or two months, sometimes may be issued.
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Family Members Need Valid I-94s to Maintain Status
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The warning above, to check the I-94, also applies to all nonimmigrant family members. Each family member must hold her/his own separate status. This can be a status that depends upon another family member, but each individual should have either an unexpired I-94 or a timely and properly-filed, pending request to change or extend status. Even dependant family members must file extension requests, separate from their spouses' extension requests, in order to maintain status in the United States.
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Not Extending H-4 Status - a Common Mistake
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One of the most common mistakes that we at the Murthy Law Firm see involves spouses and children with derivative statuses, such as the H-4, who assume that their statuses are valid simply because the principal beneficiaries in these cases have maintained valid status. This is not the case. The filing of an H1B extension (or any principal status extension) does not extend the status of the dependant spouse and/or children.
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The confusion seems to arise from the fact that the derivative spouse usually first enters the U.S. based upon an approved H-4 visa from a consulate abroad. This visa is based on the H1B approval of the principal spouse. There is no separate petition filed for the dependant spouse. However, the procedure changes once the H-4 enters the United States. Once in the U.S., the status is ruled by the date on the I-94 card. The dependent will fall out of status unless s/he files his/her own request to extend or change status beyond the I-94 date. The primary spouse's extension or change request does not take care of the family automatically. The family members need to file separately, with different forms and additional filing fees, referencing the primary beneficiary's filing.
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Failing to Extend Status - a Serious Problem
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The failure to extend status as a dependant can have serious immigration consequences. If one allows her/his status to lapse, it generally cannot be extended or changed in the United States. Thus, the individual may have to leave the U.S., with a possibility of regaining status by entering again through a POE. This solution is not always available, however, if the problem is not detected in time. Individuals who have accrued more than 180 days of unlawful presence after age 18 will be barred from reentering the U.S. for three years following departure. This bar to reentry increases to ten years for those who have accrued one year or more of unlawful presence. Thus, if the dependant spouse or child over 18 leaves the U.S., reentry may not be an option.
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Possible Solution - a Nunc Pro Tunc
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One potential solution for family members in the situation described is the request to late-file an extension of status and obtain a backdated, or nunc pro tunc, approval of the dependant status. More on this option can be found in our September 8, 2006 article, Nunc Pro Tunc H1B and H-4 Cases Approved. While we at the Murthy Law Firm have filed many such cases successfully, whether the USCIS chooses to grant the status change or extension is entirely a discretionary matter. The likelihood depends upon many factors, and the outcomes are sometimes inconsistent. These are not routine cases. MurthyDotCom and MurthyBulletin readers who believe that they may have this problem should arrange to discuss the matter with their attorneys, or may contact the Murthy Law Firm to consult with one of our lawyers.
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Travel Documents - Visas and Advance Parole
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When planning travel outside the U.S., it is necessary to check the expiration dates of one's travel documents. Visa stamp expiration dates should be double checked and, if needed, appointments for new visas made in advance via the appropriate consulate's website. As explained, the expiration date on the visa stamp in the passport does not affect status or permission to remain in the United States. However, many people will find that a valid visa is needed in order to return to the U.S. after foreign travel. Plans for visa applications must be made in advance, as they require appointments at the U.S. consulates abroad. During heavy travel seasons, appointments may become unavailable.
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Individuals who have pending Applications for Adjustment of Status (I-485s), are generally eligible to request Advance Parole (AP). AP is essentially advance permission to return to the U.S. to pursue one's I-485 case. AP is necessary for those who do not hold H or L status. However, it is a good idea to obtain advance parole even with H or L status, particularly if the H or L visa has expired. It is then available should the need for emergency travel arise, when trying to schedule a visa appointment may create additional stress, or may be impossible given time constraints.
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The AP generally is issued as a one-year, multiple entry document. The expiration date is clearly indicated on the document. The return travel must occur before the expiration date. AP requests must be filed from within the United States and one must be present in the U.S. at the time of approval in order to use that AP for reentry into the U.S. It is not possible to request an AP extension from abroad. Thus, the expiration date is very important.
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Employment Authorization Documents
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Employment Authorization Documents (EAD) may be requested by persons with I-485 cases pending. The EAD may be issued either for one or two years. More information on the two-year EAD is available in our July 25, 2008 MurthyBulletin article, 2-Year EADs and Reported Errors on EAD Cards. The EAD expiration date is marked clearly on the card. Those working based upon the EAD, must have approval in order to maintain employment eligibility. The renewal request therefore needs to be filed in advance to avoid a lapse in eligibility for employment. EAD renewals may be filed 120 days in advance, which we at the Murthy Law Firm recommend.
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Like the AP, it can be a good idea to have an EAD, just in case. Individuals working in nonimmigrant statuses, such as H-1 or L-1, who also have I-485 cases pending, may want to obtain the EAD. The reason is simply that it permits employment and may prove helpful if one tries to find a new job. Since it can take about 90 days for the EAD to be processed, it is better to request it before it actually is needed.
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Conditional Permanent Residents
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Conditional permanent residents have a status that expires if they do not take action. Conditional permanent residence is granted in marriage-based immigration cases in which the marriage has existed for less than two years at the time of the case approval. These individuals are given permanent residence that is conditional, meaning that it expires after two years. They need to make separate filings to remove the conditions. More on this topic, as well as filing requirements for any conditional permanent resident children, is available in our December 26, 2008 MurthyBulletin article, Dependent Children and Removal of Conditional Residence.
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The expiration date is clearly indicated on the lawful permanent resident card (or "green card"). Failure to file to remove the conditions by the expiration means that the individual is no longer a permanent resident. Conditional permanent residents who have missed the deadline should obtain qualified immigration advice. It is sometimes possible to overcome this problem, but the expiration date should be taken seriously and the problem avoided, if possible. Conditional permanent residents who are approaching the deadline, and are uncertain about procedures and eligibility to file to remove the conditions, should set up consultations with their respective immigration attorneys. If the Murthy Law Firm is not handling your immigration case, our attorneys are available to consult on matters as a second opinion.
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Green Cards - Verify Expiration Dates
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Most green cards have expiration dates. This does not mean that permanent resident status expires, but only the card itself. It means it is time to request a new card by filing Form I-90. It is important to have proper evidence of status for work, travel, and general purposes when one may need to prove lawful presence in the United States.
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Stay Informed
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Immigration laws and procedures are constantly changing. Informed individuals are better able to cope with these changes and avoid creating problems or missing opportunities. Many immigration benefits have limited availability under U.S. law. Timing is often critical. This New Year, resolve to be informed about your immigration matters. We at the Murthy Law Firm will continue to do our part by providing our free, weekly MurthyBulletin, the MurthyForum, the twice-monthly MurthyChat, and, of course, MurthyDotCom - all sources of valuable, timely, relevant information. It is our goal to keep you, our valued clients and readers, informed in 2009 and beyond, to help protect you and your families in your immigration matters.
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3. Electronic DS-160 Required at U.S. Consulate in Ciudad, Juarez
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All nonimmigrant, temporary visa applicants applying through the U.S. Consulate in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, will need to use the electronic nonimmigrant visa application form, DS-160, as of January 20, 2009. The DS-160 replaces older forms normally used for nonimmigrant visa applications at the consulate. The policy in Ciudad, Juarez is important because many nationals from countries other than Mexico routinely travel there (as well as to Canada) to apply for the H1B visas and other nonimmigrant visas, instead of attempting to apply for these in their respective home countries.
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TCNs Process NIVs at Ciudad Juarez
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Since the U.S. Consulate in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico processes nonimmigrant visa (NIV) applications for certain third-country nationals (TCNs), this change impacts foreign national nonimmigrants from many countries, in addition to those from Mexico. For more information on TCN visa processing in Mexico, see our December 5, 2008 article, TCN Visa Applications: Policy Change in Mexico.
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Fill Form DS-160 Completely and Accurately
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The DS-160 is available on the U.S. Department of State (DOS) WebSite. When applicable, it replaces Forms DS-156, DS-157, and DS-158. Individuals applying for K visas should still use the DS-156 and DS-156K forms. E class investors need to use the DS-156E in addition to the DS-160. The announcement of this change emphasized the importance of filling the form completely and accurately. Errors and omissions will result in denials and the need to reschedule visa appointments.
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Check Consular WebSite before Travel or Submitting a Visa Application
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We know that many MurthyDotCom and MurthyBulletin readers travel to Mexico to apply for nonimmigrant visas. The Consulate's policies change from time to time and it is important that you are kept abreast of the latest information. The procedures for all nonimmigrant visa applications, like all other immigration procedures, are subject to change. Moreover, the procedures can vary from one consulate to another. It is always advisable to check for the latest instructions on the appropriate consulate's website prior to applying for a visa.
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4. Secretary of DOL Hilda Solis's Position on Immigration
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President-Elect Barack Obama recently named U.S. Congressperson Hilda Solis as his choice for Secretary of Labor at the U.S. Department of Labor (DOL) in the Obama Administration. Representative Solis was elected in 2000 to represent a district located in Southern California. She has discussed her views publicly and, in this article, we at the Murthy Law Firm share her positions on matters of U.S. immigration with our readers. This effort may help us learn what might be expected from those who will be shaping U.S. immigration law and policy in the foreseeable future.
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Incoming Secretary of Labor Supports CIR
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While she has not yet been officially nominated for the position of Secretary of Labor, or confirmed by the U.S. Senate, Congressperson Solis released a statement summarizing her position on several immigration matters. Representative Solis supports comprehensive immigration reform (CIR), including earned legalization for some immigrants who are without legal status. This view on U.S. immigration is similar to the position taken by President-Elect Obama. CIR, basically, would create a new nonimmigrant class providing legalization to undocumented workers, and allow for potential long-term immigration benefits, with appropriate waiting periods.
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Solis Supports Elimination of Visa Backlogs and Family Reunification
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Representative Solis also supports the elimination of visa backlogs and the reunification of immigrant families. She supported the immigrant members of the U.S. Armed Forces by introducing and sponsoring the Naturalization and Family Protection for Military Members Act. The majority of the provisions of H.R. 1814 were enacted into law on November 24, 2004, as Public Law 108-136.
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Solis Supports DREAM ACT
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Representative Solis supports educational opportunity for the roughly 65,000 immigrant students who graduate from U.S. high schools each year but do not have the required legal status to attend a college or university. She has co-sponsored the Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act (DREAM Act), which is bi-partisan legislation that would give deserving students the chance to attain higher education. Regular MurthyDotCom and MurthyBulletin readers may recall a discussion of the DREAM Act in our March 9, 2007 article entitled, DREAM ACT Reintroduced.
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Reform of the Agricultural Temporary Worker Program
Representative Solis was an original co-sponsor and has supported the Agricultural Job Opportunity, Benefits and Security (AGJOBS) Act, which would reform immigration laws for the U.S. agricultural sector. The AGJOBS Act and DREAM Act were combined in the Security through Regularized Immigration and a Vibrant Economy (STRIVE) Act of 2007. More on this proposed legislation is available in our March 30, 2007 article, STRIVE ACT of 2007 Introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives.
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Conclusion
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These positive approaches to immigration policy of course will have to be balanced with the DOL's role in protecting U.S. workers in this economy, assuming that Representative Solis's nomination results in a confirmation for this position. The DOL is a vital player in employment-based immigration, particularly with respect to the labor certification process for permanent residence ("green card") cases. The selection of the Secretary of Labor, therefore, is very important from an immigration point of view.
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5. President Obama and U.S. Immigration Policy
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We at the Murthy Law Firm are often asked what can be expected from the new administration, in terms of changes in U.S. immigration law and policy. It is a momentous time in the history of the United States. As keynote speaker at The Obama Effects Conference, at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis, MN on October 24, 2008, Attorney Sheela Murthy researched this topic. She presented, analyzed, and discussed the possible future of immigration law and policy in the U.S. under an Obama administration. The inauguration of Barack Obama as the 44th President of the United States, will be held January 20, 2009, in Washington DC. In this article, we analyze Mr. Obama's background and policies, and how they may impact possible immigration legislation.
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Obama's Family and Cultural Background
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President-Elect Obama has a unique cultural background, with a father from Kenya and a mother who was a cultural anthropologist. He spent time as a child in countries like Indonesia and family members in Kenya. His unique cultural background may make him more sensitive to issues dealing with U.S. immigration law and policy. But he also has a strong protectionism attitude toward helping the American worker, reducing outsourcing - especially in a weak economy, and recognizing the importance of defending our borders and strengthening national security as part of the overall immigration policy.
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While many may believe that Mr. Obama will be the first U.S. president to be a first-generation American, in fact, he is the seventh. All of those who precede Mr. Obama had one or both parents from Ireland, Wales, Scotland, or Germany. They were: Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson, James Buchanan, Chester Arthur, Woodrow Wilson, and Herbert Hoover. Mr. Obama will be, however, the first U.S. president with a parent from Africa or, in fact, any non-European country, which makes his election all the more unique and historic.
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Can Obama Pass New U.S. Immigration Laws?
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Even though the U.S. president is considered to be one of the most powerful leaders of the world, no U.S. president can legislate or pass a law (except in emergency circumstances as an interim measure). Enacting law is the task of the legislature, or the U.S. Congress. The president can make his viewpoint known and members of his party in the U.S. Senate or the U.S. House of Representatives may support his position, introducing bills that are often hotly debated. Once the the bill is passed by both the Senate and the House, the president then can sign the bill into law. [For more on this process, see The Legislative Process - How a Bill Becomes a Law (Aug 02, 2002), available on MurthyDotCom.]
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Major Highlights of President-Elect Obama's Immigration Policy
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There have been no specific pronouncements of President-Elect Obama's immigration law and policy position in any major speech. One can try to glean his thought process and his bent of mind from his voting record on immigration matters. A brief summary of the immigration policy and the track record of President-Elect Obama might be encapsulated as follows.
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He voted for Comprehensive Immigration Reform (CIR) in July 2007, which attempted to eliminate the labor certification system and provide relief to undocumented workers, who could get in line to become U.S. immigrants, by creating a new Z class of visas. This was not an amnesty or blanket forgiveness. It was a slow process, requiring payment of hefty fines and get behind others waiting for years to obtain permanent U.S. immigration benefits.
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He voted for the border fence with Mexico in September 2006, as part of the immigration policy to attempt to stem the tide of new illegal border crossings.
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He voted for the DREAM Act in January 2008, which would make the undocumented immigrant children, who complete high school in the U.S., eligible for legalization, considering it unfair to penalize children for the actions of their parents.
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He voted for the Guest Worker Program in May 2006 which, as part of the CIR, would make a new visa class of Y visas to recognize the need for immigrants to enter the U.S. on a short-term basis to undertake work that is not being done by U.S. workers, such as farm work, crab picking, etc.
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He voted against declaring English as the official language in the United States in June 2007.
Conclusion
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Besides Mr. Obama's voting
record on specific immigration policies, he has pointed out that the United
States must crack down on employers who violate U.S. immigration laws by
hiring undocumented workers and defying wage laws. Mr. Obama has also stated
that, as part of his immigration policy, economic development in Mexico will
help to reduce economically-motivated illegal immigration through our
southern border. Mr. Obama likely will be preoccupied with the problems of
the U.S. economy and with the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Immigration law
and policy is a hot-button issue that will not go away, however, so after
dealing with these immediate crises, it may return as a key policy issue
that our new President will need to address. We all wish him much success
with this challenge, and the many others he will face.
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6. Reminder : Murthy's Corporate Teleconference - Wed, Jan 07, 2009
Topic :
Making Your Business Work
: Workforce
Reductions & Immigration Law Compliance
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The January 2009
teleconference presented by the Murthy Law Firm will focus on strategies for
employers amidst workforce reductions. While the
slowing economy is imposing changes, it is important to
follow the requirements under
immigration law regarding employment
termination. Attorneys from the Murthy Law Firm will discuss how to
prepare for and handle reductions in force and other
terminations in the immigration law context.
The discussion will include issues for both foreign nationals holding
temporary status, like H1B, as well as the
potential impact on the permanent residence
("green card") process. As
the Department of Homeland Security and Department of Labor scrutinize immigration-related
business practices, it can be invaluable to proactively gather
information on how to address
workforce reductions. Led by
Attorney Sheela Murthy, the January 2009
Murthy Law Firm Teleconference
will explain some of
the nuances
and issues that employers should watch for in times of increased
employee layoffs, including foreign national workers.
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Employers and their
representatives can find more detail and learn how to register here.
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7. MurthyDotCom :
Did You Know
about our Consulate Page?
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At MurthyDotCom we provide visitors with a centralized location for
all the news from or about U.S. consulates abroad. While the consulates fall
under the auspices of the U.S. Department of State, we know that many of you
need information specific to the consulates, themselves. Our
Consulate Page also provides links to the sites for U.S.
Consulates in India, Canada, Mexico, and a list of all consulates worldwide,
as well as the Indian Embassies in the United States.
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MurthyChat :
The next MurthyChat session will be Monday,
Jan 05, 2008, 9:00pm Eastern Time (U.S.). The chat generally occurs on the 1st and 3rd Mondays of each month. Please check the
chat page for any
necessary changes to the schedule. Meanwhile,
search the chat
transcripts for
answers to your questions.
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Consider joining those who have discovered the value of this service. Our
message / discussion board is visited daily by one of our attorneys.
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8.
Important Processing Times and Dates
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Processing Times : For
links to processing times for the USCIS Service Centers, district
(or local) processing times, the Administrative Appeals Office,
Department of State visa bulletin, and Department of Labor dates for the
processing of labor certification applications.
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